that was from abc news. they conducted that phone interview conversation, if you like, with the father who says give up, sign, but if you don't, if you are shot, if the americans did you all hell will break loose. oh, what a situation wherein. again, we are expecting moments from now in a news conference to begin to be delivered by the boston police commissioner and the massachusetts state police chief. i hope they have more affirmation on hands. at the moment i am going to call this a stalemate. we have a perimeter around whether it's in -- waters and connecticut -- what did in massachusetts and the boston area where they believe this terrorist assault of. they have extended the search to cambridge, massachusetts where the tories have been telling people to stay indoors. meanwhile, and the rest of boston the jazz tradition system is larger shut down. many officers are closed. downtown pretty much deserted. a lot of people being told to stay at home. you cannot get to work anyway, although the airport is fun